Curious Systems episode 1: housing

This is the podcast where we get to listen to some of our favourite humans, telling the story of systems and what those systems are doing to people and the planet.

In this episode: the social housing system. Lara and Andy talk with John Swinney, CEO of Just Housing Group and a long-time innovator in the social housing sector, about how to give real decision-making power to people, why pride matters (and where it comes from), and how the different parts of the housing system affect each other.

We’re all ears.

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The Story of Systems: chapter III