Curious Systems episode 4: mental health

This is the podcast where we get to listen to some of our favourite humans, telling the story of systems and what those systems are doing to people and the planet.

In this episode: mental health.

Lara and Andy talk with Paul Standbrook, a therapist, counsellor, and coach, who has held trustee and executive roles across a wide range of organisations working on mental health provision. They discuss Paul’s own personal journey, the silos that exist between physical and mental health care, and why love, actually, needs to shape the mental health system.

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We’re all ears.